pathfinder poison list

I also talked about how the guy in the website made some huge mistakes: If you don't want a random magic item that's easily stolen, you could do this a number of ways: Still if DM allows it you save a lot of money on poisons; You basically only need to craft each one 4 times. (DC/12)^3 = cost multiplier (or base cost, whatever), Poison type: Belt of Physical Perfection 144,000 gp (craft 77,000g)(+6STR/DEX/CON) All of a sudden all those once/minute poisons become one/round, making them viable. Evolutions: Climb, Bite(2pt.poison), Tail(3pt.Sting/Poison), 4pt.Tail/Sting/Poison(TSP)x2,2pt.Aspectx1,Skilled(+8UMD) Eidolon(10) HD8/Str20/Dex20/Con18/Int7/Wis10/Cha11 Use this stealth alchemist build, it gets the poison abilities and stuff that compliments poison and is a great build in its own right with tons of options. Human (+2Con) That's not terrible, but it's underwhelming, especially considering the literal weeks it'll take you to make those things (barring liberal use of fabricate of course). Well, actually, he's a Rogue (Poisoner) 3/Ranger (Trapper) 2/Assassin 1. Tactics: Summon, Bitex1:DR/magic,DC20(+8)/1d2Con,cure2saves, Attackx4(Aspect):DR/magic,DC20(+8)/1d2Str+1d2Con,cure1save If your leveling continued snagging more alchemist wouldn't be bad eventually you can get int number of hits per one coating, yeah thats why you just carry tons of daggers xD, Enough for a fight and then you go and pick them up again, Looked like going Alchemist route would be best for sticky poison and this That'll take awhile! I found an interesting idea on the quantity over quality route. Evolutions: Climb, Bite(2pt.poison), Tail(3pt.Sting/Poison), 4pt.Tail/Sting/Poison(TSP)x2,2pt.Aspectx1,2pt.Limbs(arms)x1 Those two things said, those are just excuses I made up playing "devil's advocate". Summoner(12) CON22(+6) Even so, as an alchemist, one should still find a way of determining cost and rarity of poisons (probably somehow that concept is combined). Damage: Alchemist x (vivi and or grenadier (idk if they stack off hand) at least 6 for sticky poison By way of example, I mentioned above that things don't make sense when they're priced for game mechanics and not for a "supply/demand" economy. | OSE SRD. | Heroes and Monsters SRD 1. poison DC cost modifiers were terribly done That's pretty swell! A particular stone, suitably powdered, causes hallucinations and delirium. The key here (offensively) will be the fact that you aren't relying solely on any one crappy thing to provide your offense. That means it's really not worth what you're paying for it, as a wizard can, if they want, do that same thing 4 times per day, and hit the same targets with about as much reliability as you do. Potions vary incredibly in appearance. With this you get 6 attacks (with attack modifiers +14/+14/+8/+7/+4/-1) each hit then causes the opponent to roll a Fort save DC 15. | 5th Edition SRD Feat/Skills: EWP(CBE), MwF, SF(UMD+3),MA/P11,St11,Su11,UMD11+3 | 4 Color SRD (Astonishing Super Heroes) This means that the 4th level rogue can spend a couple of weeks to make a single dose of a poison that has a 50% chance of resistance, but can knock someone out (after a minute) for 1 to 3 hours. Eldritch Heritage with serpent bloodline still feels like the most easily applied poison these days. The Rogue archetype Poisoner has a vested interest in poisoning, however I'm having a hard time understanding how things are supposed to work and why other things work as they do. MOMS 2, picking up Perfect Style and the one about throwing weapons, that eventually allows yo uto full attack and move. I've pulled everything I could find from the d20pfsrd where they've combined many of the rules. Eidolon(4) HD3/Str13/Dex17/Con13/Int7/Wis10/Cha11 I do not know if the DC still increases if the target is immune to precision damage.. So because of this, I decided to make my own formula: DC: rogue talents: swift poisoner, lasting poison, The sap of a tree inflicts such pain that death seems preferable. As to the prohibitive price, as a GM you could just have a few of the defeated groups have some low level poisons. Why is, by a factor of 10, belladonna cheaper than hemlock? This, of course, begs the question: why the heck are you using poison?! Black Sheep: (Apothecarist). Haste Name: This is the name of the affliction. Calling upon the venomous powers of natural predators, you infect the subject with a horrible poison by making a successful melee touch attack. Green prismatic Poison shouldn't have been included on the list it's stupid. Act 1, Defender's Heart (Woljif) Master Poisoner(convert poison type) Feat:Weapon Finesse or does that just make "multi doses" that you can use with one action? Enough that the player gets a taste of using them (so to speak) but not enough that you are giving away thousands of gold pieces. The poison deals 1d3 Constitution damage per round for 3 rounds. It's going to depend on what style of character he wants. Round 1: SneakAttack+4Str(PressurePoint)+4d2Con+3d2Str Black Lotus extract (at 4.5k), burnt othur fumes (at 2.1k), deathblade (at 1.8 k), dragon bile (at 1.5 k), hemlock (at 2.5k), insanity mist (at 1.5k), king's sleep (at 5k), nightmare vapor (at 1.8k), tears of death (6.5k), ungol dust (1k), and wyvern poison (3k) are all ridiculously expensive to make for realsies via the fabricate method, as you'd pay 100 times the cost of that poison to make it at will (so, for example, 650,000 for tears of death). Under those rules, a druid/ranger should be able to pick up the materials for the making of hemlock with ease and bring it to an alchemist to fashion--the alchemist says, "Well, belladonna I can do, but turning that hemlock plant into a poison - phew! Feat/Skills: EWP(CBE), MwF, Skill Focus(UMD+3)/P7,St7,Su7,UMD7+11 In essence, what we're saying is: poisons are too powerful and useful of an item, so we're not going to not allow it in our games, but we're just going to make you jump through a lot of hoops (cost/time) to make it or buy it. Subscribe to the Open Gaming Network and get everything ad-free! My League start is going to be the: Ruetoo's Storm Burst Pathfinder.If you prefer exsanguinate yourself it is almost too easy to switch too.His guide has a b. Making up poisons is something a GM does at their own will, hence there's no rule regarding costs. But there's no way for the rogue to upgrade this. Tactics: And even then, you only get a certain number of doses for the time you spend. Tactics: Summon, Bitex1:DR/magic,DC19(+8)/1d2Con,cure2saves, Attackx2:DR/magic,DC19(+8)/1d2Str+1d2Con,cure1save These percentages are the likelihood of them being affected each round. 11) Feat: Improved Toxicological Timing - same as above but for onset period. | Everyday Heroes SRD Feat: Spell Focus(Conjuration)(+1DC vs Conj) Nightmare Vapor Arrow DC28 1Wis and confused for 1rd 2 consecutive saves 1800g (1d4+2d6+-1STR+poison) Rat poison can be dirt cheap (lets say 1 Cha damage DC 10), at 4 sp, which makes good sense. The fact that I don't have a clear set of official guidelines on how to adjudicate the cost and power aspect of poisons is what creates the greatest complication to the crafting of poisons in general and the crafting of poisons not listed in the sample list in particular. Feat: Eldritch Heritage: Nanite Bloodline - Nanite Strike (Ex) Source Advanced Player's Guide pg. Tactics: Attackx2:DC15(+4)/1StrDmg,cure1save Eidolon(6) HD5/Str18/Dex18/Con18/Int7/Wis10/Cha11 This can be fixed with the lvl 6 sticky poison alchemist discovery, If you believe your enemy might have particulary high Fort, crushing despair can help that a little bit by lowering fort by two (would use an extra turn, but could help alot if needed), (They will be unconscious for at least a minute, ample time to finish them off or tie them up). | Forge Engine SRD Frugal Crafting - I think its too strong, but if you only let it apply to mundane crafting for the alchemist its a good feat, and probably worth it for him if he can fit it in. Feat/Skills: EWP(CBE), MwF, SF(UMD+3),MultiAttack(MA)/P9,St9,Su9,UMD9+3 What sets them apart from similar items is that a drug's effects manifest as both a short term (usually beneficial) effect and an amount of ability damage. Sinking cloud, cloud kill and the poison your grippli makes cost nothing. I just can't find it! Once unleashed, the poison creates a cloud filling a . Poison is simply too slow for most game styles. That said, the poison crafting issue isn't as bad since it has a feat to speed things up 20-50+ fold. A potion or oil can be used only once. Disclaimer 2: I also didn't include positive or negative, as they are special in that one only damages undead for the most part and one only damages the living for the most part, or alignment damage as it affects things conditionally based on their alignment which is subject to change and DM discretion, or physical damage as it has several variables such as weapon type, weapon material, and magical vs. nonmagical. Tactics: UMD, Attack(B,TS,T,CBEx6) -------------------------------- (Incidentally, good fortitude save means: +4 by 4th level, such that most NPC guards (level 4 warriors) you'd be facing, without CON bonus, would make it 55% of the time by the time you're effectively purchasing said poison.). Clearly the price is reflective of game mechanics, but that's tough to explain to a player who wants to craft poisons. While, unlike the sleep spell, the poison has no HD limit, the spell is much more potent, because of higher hypothetical DCs and the fact that monsters of CR 4 either tend to make the save on a 6 (for good saves) or on a 10 (for bad saves). PathfinderExtending the Poison Rules. Unconscious for a minute is pretty much death as well, so this is probably the most solid early level poison, and probably one he should pick with potent concoction. Take Poison Focus (+1 DC) and a Virulent Weapon I swear there used to be a Virulent weapon property. Source Core Rulebook pg. The glittering hoard of a terrifying dragon. That is the cost for one dose and one dose is treated exactly the same for a weapon or ammunition (source?). lv4 rogue (poisoner), lv1 witch lv15 alchemist I am fairly sure there is a specific clause about poison in soociety play. But here, give me that belladonna plant, I can whip you up something in an hour.". An example would be to either change the crafting rules, or give a feat for free (like master alchemist), or make a more affordable poison without overdoing things. Oil of Taggit (900sp) - Assuming DC 20 (typical item) and average Craft: Alchemy roll of 25. You could put some arbitrary limitation on it, like a given person can't have more potions in existence at a time than their constitution or intelligence or dexterity or something. Eidolon(7) HD6/Str19/Dex19/Con18/Int7/Wis10/Cha11 What a great poison! Presuming not spending more than ~20% of your wealth by level on any one item, that means that the minor creation 3/day really isn't viable until 10th level which is about the point that foes start routinely laughing at all of the poisons you can come up with except: dragon bile (which they make on an average of 13 or higher), purple worm poison (which they make on an average of 11 or higher), and tears of death (which they make on an average of 9 or higher) not hard dice rolls to attain. Perhaps you can let him use Knowledge: Nature to gather a small amount of components while overland traveling or something. 25Point Buy: 10Str/16Dex/19Con/12Int/10Wis/10Cha Poison doses are typically kept in a vial or some other type of safe and secure container. I'm maybe a bit worried about ability damage being too cheap. | Cairn SRD Yeah I'd probably agree with the statement that rogue poisoner isn't very good; Seems like something A GM/DM could/would use as an enemy though, since poisons are the kind of thing that are really strong vs PCs but not-so-much FOR PCs unless they're buffed. These range from mechanical devices that shoot darts or drop heavy blocks to magic runes that explode into bursts of flame. -------------------------------- Poisoned creatures can make a Fortitude save each round to . Party Member(s)/Cohort: Throw Brewed Reek(20gp) & Itching Powder(30gp) 3: Master poisoner class ability, with 1 hour of work you can turn that injury poison into an inhalant, which if you throw at the intersection of squares means you can dose 4 enemies with that 1 poison. They're a less-than-50/50 chance against creatures with poor saves from that point out. If you put multple doses into one inhaled poison. Can't make it easily? If we're doing this the 'cheap trick' way (2k*3*5) = 30k with no reductions on it (about 6k per use per day), and would net you all the practical effect of the above item, but allow you to do so twice per day for a lower cost with no limitations at all. Nonetheless, the rule would have to be one inherited from 3.5e, since the explicit mention of that fact might be missing from the core. The herbs that have the same name as real-life ones may not actually be the same thing even though it has the same name; some things might be a lot harder or easier to get. Combine with Malignant Poison (+4 DC) and Sticky Poison (lasts a number of rounds = to Int mod). | ACK-SRD The reason for the poison prices make little sense, unless you consider that they're marked up for black-market dealings or something. If they fail any one of the fort saves they are knocked unconscious. DESCRIPTION Calling upon the venomous powers of natural predators, you infect the subject with a horrible poison by making a successful melee touch attack. Advice: Search Thread Search this Thread: 1 to 50 of 55 << first < prev . I'm curious if there aren't some ways to create magical poisons like there are ways to make magical traps. Tactics: Attack(PB(19(+8)/1d4Str),TSP(DC19(+8)/1d4Str)x2) - 6th level: good save (9), poor save (5) If it doesn't take up a "space", it'd cost double, so let's go ahead and leave it as, say, oh, hm, a ring-slot item, though if two rings are worn, this item simply becomes quiescent and unusable until the other ring is removed. Giant Wasp, Large Scorpion Venom, Malyass Rootpaste, Sassone Leaf Residue, and Shadow Essence are nearly the best purchase for their DC (roughly 200-300, for DCs of 16-18), but Malyass Rootpaste and Sasson Leaf Residue have a 1 minute onset time. Poison. The poison works because it's a 'piggy back' to the smoke and doesn't rely on you hitting in combat (simply them being near you and breathing). It added your weapon Enhancement to Poison DCs.
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